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If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffeee Guy"


Oct 22, 2006, 2:12 PM


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If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can
you report that money as stolen? If you as an individual cannot choose
how your taxes are spent, for example of choices, "1. Health Care", "2.
Defense", "3. Charity", "4. Social Security/Retirement", "5. Clean
Energy" and "6. All of the Above" Other options might exist such as
Health Care and Retirement, or Health Care, Retirement, and Charity.

But, when there is so much of a moral issue as to see protestors and
activists paying taxes when they protest against how it's spent, isn't
just extortion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

You see the law is the threat that would take away the friends, family,
and rights of an individual. Right there is the threat of criminal
prosecution, fines and prison time. But, when you or anyone else has a
moral issue concerning the Government, how it does it's job, and
totally dissagrees with how that money is spent, shouldn't they have a
right to protest without conviction, and refuse to financially support
that endeavor? I believe that there should be a law that allows the
people to pick, and choose which account their tax dollar goes into,
and that there be several set asside for major projects and Goals
Established by Government and Politicians. I don't believe that they
should have absolute power.

I believe, that we the people should reclaim some of that power, and if
the spending of the past really pisses you off, prepare a cover letter
of protest, and report the money you paid in taxes as stolen. Include
why you feel the way you feel, and where you consider it morally
acceptable to be spending your tax money, as well as why you feel that
it was stolen, and spent on something you would never buy. Be careful
to examin the forms you use, in some states, official forms, especially
those forms used in criminal reports cannot be used for personal use.
But, talk to a lawyer, or attorney. It's not a joke, you want change.

Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffeee Guy"


Oct 22, 2006, 2:31 PM


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In your cover letter, make sure you make a point of your personal
priorities. If my list of options isn't good enough, include your own.
Education should be on the top of the list, but then there is
Emergency Services, and National Security, or anti-terrorism as a
potential itemized solution that would require funding.

But, what ever you do, protest, make it formal, and make it clear that
you feel your money was taken from you, and spent the wrong way.

Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
Bishop@OnTheBoard.com


Oct 22, 2006, 5:45 PM


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LOL.

"You" the people elected those who made the tax laws.
Ergo, "you" (along with them) accept the tax laws as
written.

Changing any law (taxes included) is done through
elections.

Grow up.
Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffeee Guy"


Oct 22, 2006, 9:21 PM


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Dipshit, I haven't voted for one of them as of yet. I've registered to
vote several times, and yet, I have never placed one single vote.
Becareful whom you call a fool, you may only find that you are one.

The Flavored Coffee Guy

Bishop@OnTheBoard.com wrote:
> LOL.
>
> "You" the people elected those who made the tax laws.
> Ergo, "you" (along with them) accept the tax laws as
> written.
>
> Changing any law (taxes included) is done through
> elections.
>
> Grow up.

Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
Bishop@OnTheBoard.com


Oct 22, 2006, 10:59 PM


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On 22-Oct-2006, "The Flavored Coffeee Guy" <elgersmad@rock.com> wrote:

> Dipshit, I haven't voted for one of them as of yet. I've registered to
> vote several times, and yet, I have never placed one single vote.
> Becareful whom you call a fool, you may only find that you are one.
>
> The Flavored Coffee Guy
>

Your response belies your ignorance.

> Bishop@OnTheBoard.com wrote:
> > LOL.
> >
> > "You" the people elected those who made the tax laws.
> > Ergo, "you" (along with them) accept the tax laws as
> > written.
> >
> > Changing any law (taxes included) is done through
> > elections.
> >
> > Grow up.
Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffee Guy"


Oct 23, 2006, 3:48 PM


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>
> Your response belies your ignorance.
>

Could you imagine anyone attentive enough to see that there's been no
example of a truly Good Politician, that actually supported education
since, Dixie Lee Ray, in Washington State.

Take a look at who you call ignorant, and what I see in the past
Presidents. No standard of living equation, no fair minimum wage, no
self made people, and no market. Base wages should always be enough to
live and school. Otherwise, the tax bracket they are in, they are
stuck in.

Looking back, my first year of contribution to SS was 1952, when I was
12. I was paid little, 35 cents and hour IIRC, but didn't expect to
support myself, only to save money to buy a Model A for my 14th
birthday, tires for it, and insurance (and to have a few dollars to
waste away sniffing the already electrifying aromas of girl).

Back then, politicians were being elected for helping the average joe
make a living.


President Harry S. Truman
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ht33.html
Quote from the 7th Paragraph:
Thus far, he had followed his predecessor's policies, but he soon
developed his own. He presented to Congress a 21-point program,
proposing the expansion of Social Security, a full-employment program,
a permanent Fair Employment Practices Act, and public housing and slum
clearance. The program, Truman wrote, "symbolizes for me my assumption
of the office of President in my own right." It became known as the
Fair Deal.


Dwight D. Eisenhower
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/de34.html
Quote from the 9th Paragraph:
In domestic policy the President pursued a middle course, continuing
most of the New Deal and Fair Deal programs, emphasizing a balanced
budget. As desegregation of schools began, he sent troops into Little
Rock, Arkansas, to assure compliance with the orders of a Federal
court; he also ordered the complete desegregation of the Armed Forces.
"There must be no second class citizens in this country," he wrote.


John Kennedy
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jk35.html
Quote from the 5th Paragraph:
His Inaugural Address offered the memorable injunction: "Ask not what
your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country." As
President, he set out to redeem his campaign pledge to get America
moving again. His economic programs launched the country on its longest

sustained expansion since World War II; before his death, he laid plans

for a massive assault on persisting pockets of privation and poverty.


Lyndon B. Johnson
Go to the link and read the whole thing.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/lj36.html


Richard M. Nixon
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rn37.html
Did relatively nothing for the working American, and was an inflation
fighter.


Gerald R. Ford
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gf38.html
Nothing notable for the average working American Civilian, and an
inflation fighter.


Jimmy Carter
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jc39.html
Insured your SS Check would pay enough, and fought inflation.


Ronald Reagan
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html
Fought inflation.


George Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html
Destroyed the equation that was constructed to calculate the minimum
wage shortly after you started working. No longer was the minimum wage

going to be a living wage once inflation went up and the buying power
of the dollar dropped. It was a course of action taken to hopefully
reduce the number of cars on the road. It will take ten years for
inflation to actually impact Community Colleges and Clinics across the
nation. The impact is devistating and those schools and clinics closed

their doors for good. People begin to suffer.


William J. Clinton
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html
Chose to feed the people beans and rice over having any meat in their
diets and revised the minimum wage equation a second time ensuring that

it would pay the people less in respect to a living wage. Caused a
measurable amount of inflation in the cost of living overall by
removing price controls that existed since the 30s on produce, and made

it a commodity on the stock market. The cost of living goes up as a
result of food prices, the people's general health is suffering for low

income families. Was dumb enough to play doctor, without a Ph. D in
medicine, and attempted to perscribe medications based upon bulk
purchases without any concern for any potential allergic reactions to
save Medicare a buck, when theres more potential for casualties in his
choice to generalize medications.


President George W. Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html
Is destroying the Education System for all, and the Social Security
System.


Out of the Navy in '65, my first job actaully paid less than a JG's
stipend, but, like the boss told me, if I busted my ass, things would
get better. I did. They did, just not enough. I changed jobs. Nobody

ever promised me a rose garden


They fed you, they clothed ya, and damn, it couldn't have cost too
much. No wonder you own land.


Look, the Presidents that were there in your lifetime gave a shit about

the people. The presidents you've seen fighting inflation, stalled the

system and took the people who could or would have cared about the
average, below average and above average American out of those office
seats throughout Congress, Senate, and the office of President.
Everything took a dive after the first Bush.

Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffee Guy"


Oct 23, 2006, 3:49 PM


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> Your response belies your ignorance.



Could you imagine anyone attentive enough to see that there's been no
example of a truly Good Politician, that actually supported education
since, Dixie Lee Ray, in Washington State.

Take a look at who you call ignorant, and what I see in the past
Presidents. No standard of living equation, no fair minimum wage, no
self made people, and no market. Base wages should always be enough to

live and school. Otherwise, the tax bracket they are in, they are
stuck in.


Looking back, my first year of contribution to SS was 1952, when I was
12. I was paid little, 35 cents and hour IIRC, but didn't expect to
support myself, only to save money to buy a Model A for my 14th
birthday, tires for it, and insurance (and to have a few dollars to
waste away sniffing the already electrifying aromas of girl).


Back then, politicians were being elected for helping the average joe
make a living.


President Harry S. Truman
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ht33.html
Quote from the 7th Paragraph:
Thus far, he had followed his predecessor's policies, but he soon
developed his own. He presented to Congress a 21-point program,
proposing the expansion of Social Security, a full-employment program,
a permanent Fair Employment Practices Act, and public housing and slum
clearance. The program, Truman wrote, "symbolizes for me my assumption
of the office of President in my own right." It became known as the
Fair Deal.


Dwight D. Eisenhower
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/de34.html
Quote from the 9th Paragraph:
In domestic policy the President pursued a middle course, continuing
most of the New Deal and Fair Deal programs, emphasizing a balanced
budget. As desegregation of schools began, he sent troops into Little
Rock, Arkansas, to assure compliance with the orders of a Federal
court; he also ordered the complete desegregation of the Armed Forces.
"There must be no second class citizens in this country," he wrote.


John Kennedy
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jk35.html
Quote from the 5th Paragraph:
His Inaugural Address offered the memorable injunction: "Ask not what
your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country." As
President, he set out to redeem his campaign pledge to get America
moving again. His economic programs launched the country on its longest



sustained expansion since World War II; before his death, he laid plans



for a massive assault on persisting pockets of privation and poverty.


Lyndon B. Johnson
Go to the link and read the whole thing.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/lj36.html


Richard M. Nixon
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rn37.html
Did relatively nothing for the working American, and was an inflation
fighter.


Gerald R. Ford
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gf38.html
Nothing notable for the average working American Civilian, and an
inflation fighter.


Jimmy Carter
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jc39.html
Insured your SS Check would pay enough, and fought inflation.


Ronald Reagan
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html
Fought inflation.


George Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html
Destroyed the equation that was constructed to calculate the minimum
wage shortly after you started working. No longer was the minimum wage



going to be a living wage once inflation went up and the buying power
of the dollar dropped. It was a course of action taken to hopefully
reduce the number of cars on the road. It will take ten years for
inflation to actually impact Community Colleges and Clinics across the
nation. The impact is devistating and those schools and clinics closed



their doors for good. People begin to suffer.


William J. Clinton
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html
Chose to feed the people beans and rice over having any meat in their
diets and revised the minimum wage equation a second time ensuring that



it would pay the people less in respect to a living wage. Caused a
measurable amount of inflation in the cost of living overall by
removing price controls that existed since the 30s on produce, and made



it a commodity on the stock market. The cost of living goes up as a
result of food prices, the people's general health is suffering for low



income families. Was dumb enough to play doctor, without a Ph. D in
medicine, and attempted to perscribe medications based upon bulk
purchases without any concern for any potential allergic reactions to
save Medicare a buck, when theres more potential for casualties in his
choice to generalize medications.


President George W. Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html
Is destroying the Education System for all, and the Social Security
System.

Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
Bishop@OnTheBoard.com


Oct 23, 2006, 9:03 PM


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On 23-Oct-2006, "The Flavored Coffee Guy" <elgersmad@rock.com> wrote:

> >
> > Your response belies your ignorance.
> >
>
> Could you imagine anyone attentive enough to see that there's been no
> example of a truly Good Politician, that actually supported education
> since, Dixie Lee Ray, in Washington State.
>
> Take a look at who you call ignorant, and what I see in the past
> Presidents. No standard of living equation, no fair minimum wage, no
> self made people, and no market. Base wages should always be enough to
> live and school. Otherwise, the tax bracket they are in, they are
> stuck in.
>

Been that way forever.

> Looking back, my first year of contribution to SS was 1952, when I was
> 12. I was paid little, 35 cents and hour IIRC, but didn't expect to
> support myself, only to save money to buy a Model A for my 14th
> birthday, tires for it, and insurance (and to have a few dollars to
> waste away sniffing the already electrifying aromas of girl).
>
> Back then, politicians were being elected for helping the average joe
> make a living.
>
>
> President Harry S. Truman
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ht33.html
> Quote from the 7th Paragraph:
> Thus far, he had followed his predecessor's policies, but he soon
> developed his own. He presented to Congress a 21-point program,
> proposing the expansion of Social Security, a full-employment program,
> a permanent Fair Employment Practices Act, and public housing and slum
> clearance. The program, Truman wrote, "symbolizes for me my assumption
> of the office of President in my own right." It became known as the
> Fair Deal.
>
>
> Dwight D. Eisenhower
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/de34.html
> Quote from the 9th Paragraph:
> In domestic policy the President pursued a middle course, continuing
> most of the New Deal and Fair Deal programs, emphasizing a balanced
> budget. As desegregation of schools began, he sent troops into Little
> Rock, Arkansas, to assure compliance with the orders of a Federal
> court; he also ordered the complete desegregation of the Armed Forces.
> "There must be no second class citizens in this country," he wrote.
>
>
> John Kennedy
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jk35.html
> Quote from the 5th Paragraph:
> His Inaugural Address offered the memorable injunction: "Ask not what
> your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country." As
> President, he set out to redeem his campaign pledge to get America
> moving again. His economic programs launched the country on its longest
>
> sustained expansion since World War II; before his death, he laid plans
>

thanks to Viet Nam expenses, yes.

> for a massive assault on persisting pockets of privation and poverty.
>
>
> Lyndon B. Johnson
> Go to the link and read the whole thing.
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/lj36.html
>

a joke.

>
> Richard M. Nixon
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rn37.html
> Did relatively nothing for the working American, and was an inflation
> fighter.
>
>
> Gerald R. Ford
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gf38.html
> Nothing notable for the average working American Civilian, and an
> inflation fighter.
>
>
> Jimmy Carter
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jc39.html
> Insured your SS Check would pay enough, and fought inflation.
>

Inflation was raging during Carter years. Gimme a break.

>
> Ronald Reagan
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html
> Fought inflation.
>
>
> George Bush
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html
> Destroyed the equation that was constructed to calculate the minimum
> wage shortly after you started working. No longer was the minimum wage
>
> going to be a living wage once inflation went up and the buying power
> of the dollar dropped. It was a course of action taken to hopefully
> reduce the number of cars on the road. It will take ten years for
> inflation to actually impact Community Colleges and Clinics across the
> nation. The impact is devistating and those schools and clinics closed
>
> their doors for good. People begin to suffer.
>

ridiculous and BS.

>
> William J. Clinton
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html
> Chose to feed the people beans and rice over having any meat in their
> diets and revised the minimum wage equation a second time ensuring that
>
> it would pay the people less in respect to a living wage. Caused a
> measurable amount of inflation in the cost of living overall by
> removing price controls that existed since the 30s on produce, and made
>
> it a commodity on the stock market. The cost of living goes up as a
> result of food prices, the people's general health is suffering for low
>
> income families. Was dumb enough to play doctor, without a Ph. D in
> medicine, and attempted to perscribe medications based upon bulk
> purchases without any concern for any potential allergic reactions to
> save Medicare a buck, when theres more potential for casualties in his
> choice to generalize medications.
>
>
> President George W. Bush
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html
> Is destroying the Education System for all, and the Social Security
> System.
>
>
> Out of the Navy in '65, my first job actaully paid less than a JG's
> stipend, but, like the boss told me, if I busted my ass, things would
> get better. I did. They did, just not enough. I changed jobs. Nobody
>
> ever promised me a rose garden
>
>
> They fed you, they clothed ya, and damn, it couldn't have cost too
> much. No wonder you own land.
>
>
> Look, the Presidents that were there in your lifetime gave a shit about
>
> the people. The presidents you've seen fighting inflation, stalled the
>

No one did, or ever will.

> system and took the people who could or would have cared about the
> average, below average and above average American out of those office
> seats throughout Congress, Senate, and the office of President.
> Everything took a dive after the first Bush.

I've been around 60 years now. I can tell you, shit rolls down hill.

You have your choice.....

Pick a Dem. lib-loon and have your pockets picked for those who
do not work for a living through forced tax contributions.

Pick a Rep. schemer and have you pockets picked by their trickle-
down theory; which of course is total BS as well.

Nobody elects a real person because 80% of the population is too
stupid to see the BS in front of them. So election after election
we all hear the chant "we need a CHANGE...".

We end up electing whoever is the cutest, or the funniest. No one
of "substance" and/or "backbone" ever makes it in. There ARE
candidates out there that do not have hidden agendas, but they
never run. And if they do, they never get voted in.

Nothing changes and the average worker gets screwed again.
Re: If you have a moral issue concerning how your tax dollar is spent, can you report that money as stolen?
"The Flavored Coffee Guy"


Oct 24, 2006, 2:04 AM


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Sometimes I can't agree with you more. But, no matter how inflation
presented itself when Carter was in office, he fought it. The History
of the American Economy, when you examin how well business does, stocks
and profits, the little guy/the average worker, is getting paid better,
so does everyone up the ladder of success. Why, is very simple, when
people have money to spend, they spend it. When they are responsible
and self motivated, they invest it in themselves, and anything else
that may seem functional. That's why every business, small business
included, housing, rental properties, etc, all the way across the board
does better. Sure, it does take some regulation of property values,
and rent. But, with that much taken care of inflation is curbed well
enough to maintain a very nice standard of living that allows for more
people, even the rich to make more money, and history proves it has
worked that way!

Bishop@OnTheBoard.com wrote:
>
> Nothing changes and the average worker gets screwed again.