"Fooled By Folksy Republicans"
Ene 10, 2007, 2:47 AM
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"samovar" <bala@laik.a> wrote in message news:f6Hoh.25912$In2.6552@fe10.news.easynews.com... > Rudy Canoza wrote: >> samovar wrote: >>> Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>> [re-edited to solve some line break problems] >>>> >>>> Set up a program that legalizes it. >>> >>> One does not jump to legalize crimes regardless of their ubiquity. >> >> Legalize the flow of labor across the border. > > Seal the border, reinstitute the Bracero program. > >>>> 1. Repeal birthright citizenship. It never was the intent >>>> of any law or amendment. >>> >>> Are you balmy? >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States_of_America >>> >>> Throughout the history of the United States, the fundamental legal >>> principle governing citizenship has been that birth within the >>> territorial limits of the United States confers United States >>> citizenship.[1] >> >> I read it before you did. It's false. > > Content free denial - you LOSE again! > > Write back when you can accurately admit and address the LAW. > >>> >>> Birthright citizenship has its roots in English common law. >> >> Stuff it. > > Drop dead troll. > >>>> 2. Make a realistic estimate of the total number of people >>>> who would come to the US from Mexico and Central America >>>> under a guest worker program that allowed stays of up to >>>> 10 years. Add 25% to that, and that's the quota. By making >>>> it generous, you eliminate the sort of bottleneck that creates >>>> the pressure to jump the border illegally. >>> >>> Nope, 25% is an absurdly high fudge factor, >> >> Nope. It's fine. > > No, it's a joke. > >>>> 3. The federal government has to tax citizens in states with >>>> few or no guest workers in order to offset the fiscal >>>> burden of those states where they're concentrated. >>>> The unfair fiscal burden of immigrant-heavy states is THE ONLY >>>> authentic problem from illegal immigration, and it is the >>>> responsibility of the federal government to redress it. >>> >>> Incorrect, the government is not chartered >> >> The federal government already redistributes money among the states. > > They have no mandate to tacitly endorse illegal immigration. > > Their mandate is to secure the border - period. > >>>> 4. Entrants must present proof of citizenship in Mexico or >>>> a Central American country...or Canada. No one from >>>> South America or any other part of the world is eligible >>>> (but illegal immigration from other parts of the world >>>> is negligible anyway.) >>> >>> Another lie, >> >> How can a proposal be a lie? > > Simple, your lie is stating that illegal entry form other nations is > "negligible" as proven - and then snipped, you verminous liar. > >>>> 5. At the end of their 10-year stay, they must return to their >>>> native countries for one year; then they're eligible >>>> to return for another 10 years. >>> >>> Says who? >> >> Not who; what. My excellent proposal says it, that's what. > > You are a low-wattage moron, your cobbled together left wing bullshit > collapses the minute you squat to release it. > >>>> 6. If they wish to immigrate permanently, they must return to >>>> their native countries and apply through the normal process. >>>> Assuming good behavior during their guest worker stays, >>>> their past residence in the US under the guest worker >>>> program will count favorably for them in their permanent >>>> immigration application. >>> >>> Finally one ray of sanity - here you make a reasonable condition for >>> citizenship. >>> >>>> 7. While resident in the US, they are entitled to every >>>> Constitutional protection afforded to citizens, especially >>>> due process. Upon conviction of a misdemeanor, their >>>> visit is ended and they must return to their native country >>>> for a year. Upon conviction of a felony, they are deported and >>>> become permanently ineligible for readmission. >>> >>> Oh...just a year is it? >>> >>> Why? >> >> It's as if they finished their authorized 10-year visit. > > It's as if you were somehow told you had a brain.... > > THEY LIED! > >>> As to the felony aspect, that already is law. >> >> I didn't say all of my proposal is new. > > You never even had the intellectual honesty to admit that what you > "ptoposed" already EXISTED! > > You are a liar rudy, a lying whore. > >>>> This will work. >>> >>> From what pro-illegal immigration website did you cobble that together >>> Rudy? >> >> None. > > Bullshit - you lying moron.
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