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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
kompressor


Feb 25, 2007, 11:53 AM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.html
>>>>>>>>> Nice...
>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
>>> 'leftists'
>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had nothing
> to
>>> do
>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
>>>>>>>> signboards?
>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated incident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards" sticker in
> my
>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS THEIR FREE
>>>>>> SPEECH.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling the
>>>> universities?
>>>
>>> Who controls what universities?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Uh.....the LEFT!
>>
>
>
> That explains "leftist" college professors like
> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
>
> Yeah, right.....................

And they constitute the MAJORITY????

Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
by Cal Thomas
Townhall.com
March 31, 2005
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml

You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have imagined.

According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643 full-time
faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors at American
universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15 percent said they
are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members identified themselves as
Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.

Political Science professors Robert Lichter of George Mason University,
Neil Nevitte of the University of Toronto and Stanley Rothman of Smith
College also found that 51 percent of those surveyed said they rarely or
never attend church or synagogue. University, Neil Nevitte of the
University of Toronto and Stanley Rothman of Smith College also found
that 51 percent of those surveyed said they rarely or never attend
church or synagogue.

These liberal leanings translate into liberal political beliefs. 84
percent of those surveyed are strongly or somewhat in favor of abortion
rights, 67 percent think homosexuality is acceptable, 88 percent want
more environmental protection "even if it raises prices or costs jobs"
and 65 percent want the government to ensure full employment, which puts
the professors to the left of the Democratic Party.

The study, appearing in the March issue of the online political journal
the Forum, was funded by the Randolph Foundation, which donates to
mostly conservative organizations.

Jonathan Knight, director of academic freedom and tenure for the
American Association of University Professors, was asked about the
study. He told The Washington Post, "The question is how this translates
into what happens within the academic community on such issues as
curriculum, admission of students, evaluation of students, evaluation of
faculty for salary and promotion."

Knight added he is not aware of "any good evidence" linking the personal
views of professors to what they teach. He must be living in an ivory
tower without Internet access, or he believes surveys such as this one
are "bad evidence" because they don't conform to his views.

A quick Google search of "liberalism on college campuses" brings a
wealth of good evidence that what is being taught on many of them is
anti-American, anti-religious, anti-Israel, pro-gay rights and
pro-abortion, often to the exclusion and ridicule of opposing views.

In December, Columbia University appointed a committee to look into
charges of bias and intimidation by faculty, particularly in Middle East
studies. Columbia isn't the only university with bias problems when it
comes to the Middle East. Checkout www.campus-watch.org for many more
examples.

Ward Churchill, a tenured professor at the University of Colorado, is in
the news for his grotesque characterization of the 9/11 victims as
"little Eichmanns" who were not casualties of terrorism, but legitimate
"military targets." His views are part of his teaching.

From "gay rights" courses, even majors, at an increasing number of
colleges, to the usual anti-military and anti-free enterprise bilge that
has been documented in numerous books and articles, only those who are
in complete denial would claim there is no link between the mostly
liberal views of professors and how they shape their subject matter in
the classroom, at numerous forums and in campus advocacy groups that
constitute modern academic life.

Thomas Reeves of the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute has said
"conservatives are discriminated against routinely and deliberately" in
faculty hiring, making some highly qualified teachers virtually
unemployable because of their political and social views. This
guarantees a perpetuation of a one-dimensional approach to most subjects.

In matters of race and gender, colleges practice affirmative action to
employ more minority and female professors and attract more students
with these characteristics. Why won't they do the same for conservative
professors and students in the name of diversity, pluralism and academic
freedom?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/04/11/liberal_bias_in_the_ivory_tower/

YET ANOTHER study has come out documenting what most conservatives
consider to be blindingly obvious: the leftward tilt of the American
professoriate. The latest report, by political scientist Stanley Rothman
of Smith College, communications professor S. Robert Lichter of George
Mason University, and Canadian polling expert Neil Nevitte, published in
the online journal Forum, paints a stark picture of a politically skewed
academy. Nearly three quarters of the professors in a 1999 survey of
college faculty identified themselves as left/liberal, only 15 percent
as right/conservative; 50 percent were Democrats and 11 percent Republicans.

A typical reaction to such studies from the left has been to shoot the
messenger without denying the basic facts of the message. Thus, on his
website, Michael Bérubé, a professor of literature and cultural studies
at Penn State who has often locked horns with conservative critics of
the academy, challenges the study's sample size and points out that it
was financed by a conservative foundation. Then he cites a 2001 survey
by the UCLA Higher Education Research Institute which yielded fairly
similar results: 5.3 percent of faculty members were classified as ''far
left," 42.3 percent as ''liberal," 34.3 percent as ''middle of the
road," 17.7 percent as ''conservative," and 0.3 percent as ''far right."
''Yep," concedes Bérubé, ''we're a pretty liberal bunch."

Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
kompressor


Feb 25, 2007, 11:53 AM


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Don Homuth wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
>> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
>>> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
>>>>>
>>>> If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
>>> Now that's quite a silly statement.
>>>
>>> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
>>>
>>> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
>>
>> Especially if you're a fetus.
>
> Fetuses don't make choices.

Ding ding ding!!!!!
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
kompressor


Feb 25, 2007, 11:53 AM


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Zaroc Stone wrote:
> Harold Burton wrote:
>> In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
>> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
>>> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
>>>>>
>>>> If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
>>> Now that's quite a silly statement.
>>>
>>> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
>>>
>>> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
>>
>>
>> Especially if you're a fetus.
> >
> Mr. Halliburton, you are a classic example that abortion should be
> legal to age.....[how old did you say you were?]

Someone should have spooned your misshapen fetus out that's for sure!
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Mitchell Holman


Feb 25, 2007, 12:39 PM


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kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in
news:wajEh.9987$gl2.4523@fe10.news.easynews.com:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
>> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
>>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
>>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.html
>>>>>>>>>> Nice...
>>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
>>>> 'leftists'
>>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had
>>>>>>>>> nothing
>> to
>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
>>>>>>>>> signboards?
>>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated incident.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards" sticker
>>>>>>>> in
>> my
>>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS THEIR
>>>>>>> FREE SPEECH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
>>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling
>>>>> the universities?
>>>>
>>>> Who controls what universities?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Uh.....the LEFT!
>>>
>>
>>
>> That explains "leftist" college professors like
>> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
>> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
>>
>> Yeah, right.....................
>
> And they constitute the MAJORITY????
>
> Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
> by Cal Thomas
> Townhall.com
> March 31, 2005
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml
>
> You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
> reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
> liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have
> imagined.
>
> According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
> University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643 full-time
> faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors at American
> universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15 percent said they
> are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members identified themselves as
> Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.


So what you are trying to say is that educated
people tend to be liberal and stupid people tend to
be conservative.

Tell us something we don't already know.........;)



Mitchell Holman

"Even if polar ice caps melted, there would be
no rise in ocean levels"
- Rush Limbaugh, 6/19/92




Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
"lein"


Feb 25, 2007, 12:50 PM


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On Feb 24, 12:12 pm, "Al Smith" <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.html
>
> Nice...

10 to 1 says the attacker is a Democrat.

Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 2:16 PM


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Don Homuth wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >>
> >If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
>
> Now that's quite a silly statement.
>
It's intended to be a silly statement to show the silliness of the
statement it is referring to.



> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
>
Not if you are the foetus.






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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 2:17 PM


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Don Homuth wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> >> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >> >>
> >> >If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
> >>
> >> Now that's quite a silly statement.
> >>
> >> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
> >>
> >> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
> >
> >
> >Especially if you're a fetus.
>
> Fetuses don't make choices. That's an adult responsibility and right.
>
People being murdered don't make choices, that's what OJ Simpson does.



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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 2:29 PM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in
> news:wajEh.9987$gl2.4523@fe10.news.easynews.com:
>
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
> >> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
> >>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
> >>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
> >>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.html
> >>>>>>>>>> Nice...
> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
> >>>> 'leftists'
> >>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had
> >>>>>>>>> nothing
> >> to
> >>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
> >>>>>>>>> signboards?
> >>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated incident.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards" sticker
> >>>>>>>> in
> >> my
> >>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
> >>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS THEIR
> >>>>>>> FREE SPEECH.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
> >>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling
> >>>>> the universities?
> >>>>
> >>>> Who controls what universities?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Uh.....the LEFT!
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> That explains "leftist" college professors like
> >> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
> >> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
> >>
> >> Yeah, right.....................
> >
> > And they constitute the MAJORITY????
> >
> > Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
> > by Cal Thomas
> > Townhall.com
> > March 31, 2005
> > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml
> >
> > You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
> > reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
> > liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have
> > imagined.
> >
> > According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
> > University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643 full-time
> > faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors at American
> > universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15 percent said they
> > are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members identified themselves as
> > Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.
>
> So what you are trying to say is that educated
> people tend to be liberal and stupid people tend to
> be conservative.
>
> Tell us something we don't already know.........;)
>
It's not very smart of you to conclude the academia represents the
location of the smartest people.




> Mitchell Holman
>
> "Even if polar ice caps melted, there would be
> no rise in ocean levels"
> - Rush Limbaugh, 6/19/92
>
The north polar ice cap.


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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
kompressor


Feb 25, 2007, 2:48 PM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in
> news:wajEh.9987$gl2.4523@fe10.news.easynews.com:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
>>> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
>>>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
>>>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.html
>>>>>>>>>>> Nice...
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
>>>>> 'leftists'
>>>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had
>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>> to
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
>>>>>>>>>> signboards?
>>>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated incident.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards" sticker
>>>>>>>>> in
>>> my
>>>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS THEIR
>>>>>>>> FREE SPEECH.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
>>>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling
>>>>>> the universities?
>>>>> Who controls what universities?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Uh.....the LEFT!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That explains "leftist" college professors like
>>> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
>>> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
>>>
>>> Yeah, right.....................
>> And they constitute the MAJORITY????
>>
>> Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
>> by Cal Thomas
>> Townhall.com
>> March 31, 2005
>> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml
>>
>> You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
>> reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
>> liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have
>> imagined.
>>
>> According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
>> University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643 full-time
>> faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors at American
>> universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15 percent said they
>> are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members identified themselves as
>> Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.
>
>
> So what you are trying to say is that educated
> people tend to be liberal

No what I'm saying is that liberal educators have used tenure to enforce
the solidity of their hold on academia.

HTH, you piece of lying shit.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 3:05 PM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:45E10D64.B28B554B@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> >
> >
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:45E0CEAF.7C78B0B4@yahoo.co.uk:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paul Mitchum wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Mitchell Holman <NoemailPlease@comcast.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> [.]
> >> >> > >>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_wo
> >> >> > >>>> man .html
> >> >> [.]
> >> >> > Shooting abortion doctors in the back and firebombing clinics
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > "isolated incidents" but one pro choicer who fights back is proof
> >> >> > of........?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you believe the person in that video is a 'pro choicer?'
> >> >>
> >> > If dead foetuses are no big deal, why don't pro-choicers rant and
> >> > block traffic with signs with those pictures on them?
> >>
> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >>
> > If you don't like murder, don't get murdered.
>
> Abortion is to murder what miscarriages
> are to manslaughter.
>
Really?



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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Harold Burton


Feb 25, 2007, 3:06 PM


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In article <95258$45e1b982$47d387bd$10241@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
Zaroc Stone <zaroc@upper.lid> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:
> > In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> >> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >>>>
> >>> If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
> >> Now that's quite a silly statement.
> >>
> >> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
> >>
> >> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
> >
> >
> > Especially if you're a fetus.



> Mr. Halliburton, you are a classic example that abortion should be
> legal to age.....[how old did you say you were?]


About the sort of mindless response we've come to expect from leftards.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Harold Burton


Feb 25, 2007, 3:07 PM


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In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> >> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >> >>
> >> >If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
> >>
> >> Now that's quite a silly statement.
> >>
> >> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
> >>
> >> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
> >
> >
> >Especially if you're a fetus.
>
> Fetuses don't make choices.


Neither to babies.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Don Homuth


Feb 25, 2007, 3:22 PM


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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:10 -0800, Bill Bonde
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Don Homuth wrote:
>>

>> Fetuses don't make choices. That's an adult responsibility and right.
>>
>People being murdered don't make choices, that's what OJ Simpson does.

Precisely what I had said, save for the specificity of the comment.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Don Homuth


Feb 25, 2007, 3:22 PM


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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:07:15 -0500, Harold Burton
<hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>

>> Fetuses don't make choices.
>
>Neither to babies.

They aren't supposed to. Adults make choices.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Mitchell Holman


Feb 25, 2007, 3:36 PM


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Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:45E1E3AD.C80CE103@yahoo.co.uk:

>
>
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in
>> news:wajEh.9987$gl2.4523@fe10.news.easynews.com:
>>
>> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
>> >> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
>> >>
>> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
>> >>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
>> >>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.h
>> >>>> tml
>> >>>>>>>>>> Nice...
>> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
>> >>>> 'leftists'
>> >>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had
>> >>>>>>>>> nothing
>> >> to
>> >>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
>> >>>>>>>>> signboards?
>> >>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated
>> >>>>>>>> incident.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards"
>> >>>>>>>> sticker in
>> >> my
>> >>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
>> >>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS
>> >>>>>>> THEIR FREE SPEECH.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
>> >>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling
>> >>>>> the universities?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Who controls what universities?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> Uh.....the LEFT!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That explains "leftist" college professors like
>> >> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
>> >> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, right.....................
>> >
>> > And they constitute the MAJORITY????
>> >
>> > Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
>> > by Cal Thomas
>> > Townhall.com
>> > March 31, 2005
>> > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml
>> >
>> > You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
>> > reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
>> > liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have
>> > imagined.
>> >
>> > According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
>> > University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643
>> > full-time faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors
>> > at American universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15
>> > percent said they are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members
>> > identified themselves as Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.
>>
>> So what you are trying to say is that educated
>> people tend to be liberal and stupid people tend to
>> be conservative.
>>
>> Tell us something we don't already know.........;)
>>
> It's not very smart of you to conclude the academia represents the
> location of the smartest people.


It represents those smarter than "C-average"
Bush and dropout Rush Limbaugh, that's for sure!



>
>> Mitchell Holman
>>
>> "Even if polar ice caps melted, there would be
>> no rise in ocean levels"
>> - Rush Limbaugh, 6/19/92
>>
> The north polar ice cap.


Rush said caps. As in plural. As in both of them.


Since you can't defend that stupidity from dropout
Rush, maybe you can defend this one.



"It has not been proven that nicotine is addictive, the
same with cigarettes causing emphysema and other diseases."
Rush Limbaugh, Radio show, 4/29/94



Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Mitchell Holman


Feb 25, 2007, 3:37 PM


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Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:45E1EC0A.164946F6@yahoo.co.uk:

>
>
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:45E10D64.B28B554B@yahoo.co.uk:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> >> news:45E0CEAF.7C78B0B4@yahoo.co.uk:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul Mitchum wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mitchell Holman <NoemailPlease@comcast.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [.]
>> >> >> > >>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life
>> >> >> > >>>> _wo man .html
>> >> >> [.]
>> >> >> > Shooting abortion doctors in the back and firebombing
>> >> >> > clinics are
>> >> >> > "isolated incidents" but one pro choicer who fights back is
>> >> >> > proof of........?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you believe the person in that video is a 'pro choicer?'
>> >> >>
>> >> > If dead foetuses are no big deal, why don't pro-choicers rant and
>> >> > block traffic with signs with those pictures on them?
>> >>
>> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
>> >>
>> > If you don't like murder, don't get murdered.
>>
>> Abortion is to murder what miscarriages
>> are to manslaughter.
>>
> Really?


Maybe you should stick to the political debates,
the aborton one is beyond you.



Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
kompressor


Feb 25, 2007, 3:38 PM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:45E1E3AD.C80CE103@yahoo.co.uk:
>
>>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in
>>> news:wajEh.9987$gl2.4523@fe10.news.easynews.com:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:ZP9Eh.3718$_X1.3164
>>>>> @fe05.news.easynews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> kompressor <merc@des.benz> wrote in news:%47Eh.5412$k82.1626
>>>>>>> @fe07.news.easynews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in news:4t-
>>>>>>>>> dnb7N5a2wOH3YnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 12:27 pm, use...@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life_woman.h
>>>>>>> tml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think you're anything but foolish for saying that
>>>>>>> 'leftists'
>>>>>>>>>>>> are represented by a single person whose stated gripe had
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the political message, but the images of dead fetuses on
>>>>>>>>>>>> signboards?
>>>>>>>>>>> Because it happens all the time. It's not an isolated
>>>>>>>>>>> incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tell you what. You park your car with a "Kerry Edwards"
>>>>>>>>>>> sticker in
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood, I'll park my car with a "Bush Cheney" in your
>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'll pay for your repairs and you pay for mine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yep! Leftists believe in free speech just as long as IT IS
>>>>>>>>>> THEIR FREE SPEECH.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shooting abortion doctors in the back and
>>>>>>>> Compares in what numbers to owning the mass media and controlling
>>>>>>>> the universities?
>>>>>>> Who controls what universities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh.....the LEFT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That explains "leftist" college professors like
>>>>> Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and Phil Gramm and Henry
>>>>> Kissinger and Ken Starr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, right.....................
>>>> And they constitute the MAJORITY????
>>>>
>>>> Liberal bias in colleges bleeds into classroom
>>>> by Cal Thomas
>>>> Townhall.com
>>>> March 31, 2005
>>>> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/ct20050330.shtml
>>>>
>>>> You'd better sit down and firmly grip your bowl of Corn Flakes while
>>>> reading this shocking news: College faculties are not only mostly
>>>> liberal, but lean even further to the left than conservatives have
>>>> imagined.
>>>>
>>>> According to a study by professors at Smith College, George Mason
>>>> University and the University of Toronto (they surveyed 1,643
>>>> full-time faculty at 183 four-year schools), 72 percent of professors
>>>> at American universities labeled themselves liberal, while just 15
>>>> percent said they are conservative. 50 percent of faculty members
>>>> identified themselves as Democrats and only 11 percent Republicans.
>>> So what you are trying to say is that educated
>>> people tend to be liberal and stupid people tend to
>>> be conservative.
>>>
>>> Tell us something we don't already know.........;)
>>>
>> It's not very smart of you to conclude the academia represents the
>> location of the smartest people.
>
>
> It represents those smarter than "C-average"


Like Ward Churchill the fake Indian?
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Harold Burton


Feb 25, 2007, 3:50 PM


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In article <fvr3u216atv5fsh6l9f8dmuustqnk361tl@4ax.com>,
Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:07:15 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
>
> >> Fetuses don't make choices.
> >
> >Neither to babies.
>
> They aren't supposed to.


Didn't say they were.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Don Homuth


Feb 25, 2007, 3:51 PM


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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:50:01 -0500, Harold Burton
<hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <fvr3u216atv5fsh6l9f8dmuustqnk361tl@4ax.com>,
> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:07:15 -0500, Harold Burton
>> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
>> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >> Fetuses don't make choices.
>> >
>> >Neither to babies.
>>
>> They aren't supposed to.
>
>Didn't say they were.

Then why do you discuss the "choice" of a fetus?

Makes no damned sense.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Harold Burton


Feb 25, 2007, 4:20 PM


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In article <3lt3u2hivce9k6836q5eedp9eht9jnm7tj@4ax.com>,
Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:50:01 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <fvr3u216atv5fsh6l9f8dmuustqnk361tl@4ax.com>,
> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:07:15 -0500, Harold Burton
> >> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
> >> > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> Fetuses don't make choices.
> >> >
> >> >Neither to babies.
> >>
> >> They aren't supposed to.
> >
> >Didn't say they were.
>
> Then why do you discuss the "choice" of a fetus?


Why do you?
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 4:21 PM


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Don Homuth wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:10 -0800, Bill Bonde
> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Don Homuth wrote:
> >>
>
> >> Fetuses don't make choices. That's an adult responsibility and right.
> >>
> >People being murdered don't make choices, that's what OJ Simpson does.
>
> Precisely what I had said, save for the specificity of the comment.
>
The foetus is the person being murdered in the analogy. That makes my
original comment spot on. And it asks why in the world should that be
the law?



--
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Even though ice gone and no seals
Polar bears can't find their meals
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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 4:21 PM


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Harold Burton wrote:
>
> In article <4tc3u2tgl910jaa1m9apm7cstlo8da1abo@4ax.com>,
> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0500, Harold Burton
> > <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
> > > Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> > >> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> > >> >>
> > >> >If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
> > >>
> > >> Now that's quite a silly statement.
> > >>
> > >> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
> > >>
> > >> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
> > >
> > >
> > >Especially if you're a fetus.
> >
> > Fetuses don't make choices.
>
> Neither to babies.
>
Yet they are protected by law.


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Even though ice gone and no seals
Polar bears can't find their meals
Grow as thin as Ally McBeals
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Bill Bonde


Feb 25, 2007, 4:22 PM


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Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:45E1EC0A.164946F6@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> >
> >
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:45E10D64.B28B554B@yahoo.co.uk:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill Bonde <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> >> >> news:45E0CEAF.7C78B0B4@yahoo.co.uk:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paul Mitchum wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Mitchell Holman <NoemailPlease@comcast.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [.]
> >> >> >> > >>> Al Smith <caddyshack...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>>> http://www.break.com/index/pro_abortionist_attacks_pro_life
> >> >> >> > >>>> _wo man .html
> >> >> >> [.]
> >> >> >> > Shooting abortion doctors in the back and firebombing
> >> >> >> > clinics are
> >> >> >> > "isolated incidents" but one pro choicer who fights back is
> >> >> >> > proof of........?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you believe the person in that video is a 'pro choicer?'
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > If dead foetuses are no big deal, why don't pro-choicers rant and
> >> >> > block traffic with signs with those pictures on them?
> >> >>
> >> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
> >> >>
> >> > If you don't like murder, don't get murdered.
> >>
> >> Abortion is to murder what miscarriages
> >> are to manslaughter.
> >>
> > Really?
>
> Maybe you should stick to the political debates,
> the aborton one is beyond you.
>
Really?



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Even though ice gone and no seals
Polar bears can't find their meals
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Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Lobby Dosser


Feb 25, 2007, 4:30 PM


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Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>>> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
>>>
>>If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
>
> Now that's quite a silly statement.
>
> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
>
> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.

You have some control.
Re: Leftists love free speech, again...
Lobby Dosser


Feb 25, 2007, 4:31 PM


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Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0500, Harold Burton
> <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <1oa3u21nmddvs4htgecmhigpg5slregtsr@4ax.com>,
>> Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:15:32 -0800, Bill Bonde
>>> <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> >> If you don't like abortion don't get one.
>>> >>
>>> >If you don't like murder, don't get murdered....
>>>
>>> Now that's quite a silly statement.
>>>
>>> You can control your choice of whether or not to get an abortion.
>>>
>>> You cannot control your "choice" of being murdered.
>>
>>
>>Especially if you're a fetus.
>
> Fetuses don't make choices. That's an adult responsibility and right.

'First thing we do, we kill all the children. We are the adults'
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